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Dark_Eyes
02-25-2006, 09:02 AM
Who do you think has the best bielman spin of ladies competing today?

I think it has to be Fleur Maxwell: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/56921544.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=780858ABC91EC214BC97F366693104A2
Emily Hughes' is good too: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/56580281.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CEAF8D31CBBBECB569
And of course Sasha's is good too: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/56924319.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DCBADC97F8BBDADD 810F755E003CBEB8

Kay83
02-25-2006, 09:35 AM
:) SASHA SASHA SASHA!!!!! :)

:sasha:

Mozinha
02-25-2006, 09:55 AM
I think Emily has the best beillman and Sasha is the next best,especially the one that she did on her exibition. That one might be the best one I've ever seen.

Skatemusicgirl
02-25-2006, 10:23 AM
I peronsally think Emily and Sasha's are both equal..They both have really good bielmans.

Old Goat
02-25-2006, 10:26 AM
I think its overused and Ugly I wish it wasn't used so much and no one has a good one.Because it's not a natural move such as a lot of the stretch moves Sasha does that show extreme flexibility.A nice Charlotte or Sasha Spiral is far more a attractive move as is the split move.:sasha:

sash_fan
02-25-2006, 10:42 AM
I think its overused and Ugly I wish it wasn't used so much and no one has a good one.Because it's not a natural move such as a lot of the stretch moves Sasha does that show extreme flexibility.A nice Charlotte or Sasha Spiral is far more a attractive move as is the split move.:sasha:

Sasha has a natural flexibility.....not extreme......You should watch rythmic gymnastics...which is etreme flexibility....

Dark_Eyes
02-25-2006, 11:42 AM
I think Emily has the best beillman and Sasha is the next best,especially the one that she did on her exibition. That one might be the best one I've ever seen.
Yeah i agree, the one that Sasha did in her olympic exhibition was one of the best biellmans i have ever seen, it was awesome! I looked for a pic to put on here but i couldn't find one.

I think its overused and Ugly I wish it wasn't used so much and no one has a good one.
I think that it is a very nice move but yes it is over used *cough*Irina*cough* but it is a component that is needed to get the scores up, which is unfortunate because we are forced to watch many unsightly biellmans with the exception of a few beautiful ones

tripletoe
02-25-2006, 01:12 PM
You are forgetting about alissa. She has by far the best one

melkajts13
02-25-2006, 01:23 PM
You are forgetting about alissa. She has by far the best one

i agree, alissas is really good. its actually very pretty, unlike some others.

Sashaskater109
02-25-2006, 01:34 PM
Who do you think has the best bielman spin of ladies competing today?

I think it has to be Fleur Maxwell: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/56921544.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=780858ABC91EC214BC97F366693104A2
Emily Hughes' is good too: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/56580281.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CEAF8D31CBBBECB569
And of course Sasha's is good too: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/56924319.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DCBADC97F8BBDADD 810F755E003CBEB8
JUST GOOD????!?!?!? SASHA'S WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!

[Once again - watch the excessive smilies and all caps. Please do not make anymore posts like this]

tripletoe
02-25-2006, 01:41 PM
You are forgetting about alissa. She has by far the best one

Sashaskater109
02-25-2006, 02:24 PM
:) SASHA SASHA SASHA!!!!! :)

:sasha:
thats right!!! :) :sasha: :p ;) :angel:

sashafigrsk8
02-25-2006, 03:10 PM
You are forgetting about alissa. She has by far the best one

Just curious, why did you post the same thing twice, thirty minutes apart?

snap
02-25-2006, 04:23 PM
Sasha's is fantastic. Emily's is great now, too. I think Emily's coach really cracked the whip hard on her to improve her flexiblity. It worked; over the past year Emily's stretch has increased dramatically.

Smallerfuls22
02-25-2006, 04:27 PM
I think Sashas is the best. But Emilys is very good to.

Kirsten
02-25-2006, 04:33 PM
Alissa's got a gorgeous biellman. Sasha too.

Dark_Eyes
02-25-2006, 04:42 PM
Just a quick question, how exactly do you spell bielman? Is it: Bielman, Beilman, Biellman, Beillman or something else?

melkajts13
02-25-2006, 04:56 PM
Just a quick question, how exactly do you spell bielman? Is it: Bielman, Beilman, Biellman, Beillman or something else?

i've been wondering this too. but i think the real spelling of it is "Biellmann" because thats how you spell "Denise Biellmann", the one who sorta invented it.

ouridol
02-25-2006, 05:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sclizard/2006%20Olympics%20Exhibition/06olysex13.jpg

thats the best pic I could find of her Oly exhibition beillmann (however you spell it) :)

melkajts13
02-25-2006, 05:11 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sclizard/2006%20Olympics%20Exhibition/06olysex13.jpg

thats the best pic I could find of her Oly exhibition beillmann (however you spell it) :)

wow, that one was really amazing! you can see how much sasha has improved her biellmann since she first started putting it in her programs. i definitely noticed.

MKFSfan
02-26-2006, 09:01 AM
I think for the most part beillmann's are ugly, and abused!

I adore Alissa's spinning, and as far as I'm concerned, she has the best beillmann position of eligible ladies. I think the reason it works so well is because she has long legs and arms, but not very long in the torso. Skaters who aren't long limbed, tend to look "bowed" if that makes any sense, or fold in their backs. Alissa's is closest to the text book exampled of Denise and Lucinda Ruh.

The link to Fluer doesn't do her justice. If you've seen her skate, her positions are unreal! I cannot even explain what she does, but she has a very unique variation to her beillmann that is amazing to watch.

I know people like to pick on Irina's beillmann, but she's amazing because of the speed she maintains. So often the skaters hike up their skate and then fizzle out 3 spins. And Irina can do beillmann on both legs, which is impressive, too!

Dark_Eyes
02-26-2006, 10:47 AM
The link to Fluer doesn't do her justice. If you've seen her skate, her positions are unreal! I cannot even explain what she does, but she has a very unique variation to her beillmann that is amazing to watch.

Yeah you are right, her biellman is way better than that picture but thats the best picture i could find, there aren't that many pictures of Fleur about, can anybody find a better picture?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...06olysex13.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sclizard/2006%20Olympics%20Exhibition/06olysex13.jpg)

thats the best pic I could find of her Oly exhibition beillmann (however you spell it) :)

Thanks for posting that Becky, that is the best biellman that Sasha has ever done, i love it :D

melkajts13
02-26-2006, 10:52 AM
the other picture of fleur didnt work for me, so i dont know if this is any better but it was the best i could find:

http://www.wcjunior.com/live-2004/wk-kunstrijden/pictures/ladies_short/8_2.jpg

smkoepke
02-26-2006, 04:57 PM
i agree, alissas is really good. its actually very pretty, unlike some others.

Alyssa and Fleur are the best in my opinion. Sasha is still working on hers and it is better that it was, and the one in the exhibition, while very slow, was a great position, so she will be at the top of the list quite soon with Fleur and Alyssa. My concern is that sasha is losing her speed on all pof her spins because of all the new positions and COE. A lot of the skaters are having this issue, but Sasha was one who had fast spins that were really a notch ahead of the top ladies (i know irina is fast but her positions leave something to be desired in a lot of them) and I hate to see that going out the window because of COP stuff...

ouridol
02-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Does anyone have a video link of Fleur's skating? I've never watched her skate before and I'd like to see what her beilmann is like in motion, not just on a pic. :)

MKFSfan
02-26-2006, 10:55 PM
Try this link:
http://fsvids.9.forumer.com/index.php?showforum=9

I think you need to register, it's free! I've gotten to see a lot of videos of skaters I otherwise never hear of!

*Kathryn*
02-26-2006, 11:52 PM
Definately Sasha! :sasha: (NOt just saying that)

MKFSfan
02-27-2006, 09:09 AM
I think Mao's position is very nice too. It looks pretty because she has a short torso and long llimbs:
http://www.skatesweden.se/Skatesweden/Nyheter/Bild_Mao_Asada_2004LB_FP209min.jpg

I know this is about eligible skaters, but I wanted to share a few.

Naomi-I LOVE this position:
http://www.cliphoto.com/sports/naomi1.jpg

Nicole:
http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/pictures/kjohnsto/nb_camp1.gif

Nathalie Kreig (not a great picture, but look at her back!):
http://www.skating.ch/images/showonice_2000/show_51.jpg

Here's Denise!
http://members.tripod.com/IngridG/auto5.jpg

And no picture sharing of beillmanns is complete without Lucinda!
http://www.icesk8r.com/ruh/goldspin.jpg

ZealousDreamer1
02-28-2006, 11:21 PM
Denise Biellman of course!! But for skaters of today, Sasha has a great one, and I never noticed until you posted that picture, but Emily's is great as well! Irina has a really good one too!